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		<title>By: Su Bayfield</title>
		<link>http://www.eloquentpeasant.com/2007/10/18/egyptian-word-of-the-week/comment-page-1/#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator>Su Bayfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Margaret

This is a great exercise. I hope you keep it going. I did a lot of work on learning hieroglyphs several years ago and while some words stay with me, many get lost if I&#039;m not reading them constantly. Every time I go to Egypt I&#039;m having to re-learn hieroglyphs. What I need is a daily reminder!!
Thankyou and keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Margaret</p>
<p>This is a great exercise. I hope you keep it going. I did a lot of work on learning hieroglyphs several years ago and while some words stay with me, many get lost if I&#8217;m not reading them constantly. Every time I go to Egypt I&#8217;m having to re-learn hieroglyphs. What I need is a daily reminder!!<br />
Thankyou and keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Aayko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aayko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Izzy,
For an overview of ancient Egyptian words that
survive in English, see

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/4482/AEloans.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/4482/AEloans.html&lt;/a&gt;

Not sure if URLs survive the form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Izzy,<br />
For an overview of ancient Egyptian words that<br />
survive in English, see</p>
<p><a href="http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/4482/AEloans.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/4482/AEloans.html</a></p>
<p>Not sure if URLs survive the form.</p>
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		<title>By: Izzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also read that the word &#039;ivory&#039; is actually derived from Egyptian too! Apparently it comes from the word for elephant, which was abu or ibu, but when the word became Coptic, the b changed into a v (I think this is because of Greek influence, their letter &#039;beta&#039; is actually a v, not a b, though this is in modern Greek, not sure about ancient Greek) and so the word was pronounced &#039;ivu&#039; or something like that. This eventually entered English as ivory. So yes, that song lyric really is quite ancient! :)

I&#039;d be interested to know what other words from the Egyptian language have made it into English. 

I&#039;ve heard a lot of claims that &#039;alchemy&#039; is one of them but I&#039;m not sure about that. I&#039;ve read that &#039;desert&#039; is not one of those words loaned from Egyptian, despite &#039;deshret&#039; meaning essentially the same thing as &#039;desert&#039;. I thought it was from the Egyptian word for the red land, but it&#039;s apparently a linguistic red herring, the word &#039;desert&#039; is from Latin which didn&#039;t come via Egyptian...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also read that the word &#8216;ivory&#8217; is actually derived from Egyptian too! Apparently it comes from the word for elephant, which was abu or ibu, but when the word became Coptic, the b changed into a v (I think this is because of Greek influence, their letter &#8216;beta&#8217; is actually a v, not a b, though this is in modern Greek, not sure about ancient Greek) and so the word was pronounced &#8216;ivu&#8217; or something like that. This eventually entered English as ivory. So yes, that song lyric really is quite ancient! <img src='http://www.eloquentpeasant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know what other words from the Egyptian language have made it into English. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a lot of claims that &#8216;alchemy&#8217; is one of them but I&#8217;m not sure about that. I&#8217;ve read that &#8216;desert&#8217; is not one of those words loaned from Egyptian, despite &#8216;deshret&#8217; meaning essentially the same thing as &#8216;desert&#8217;. I thought it was from the Egyptian word for the red land, but it&#8217;s apparently a linguistic red herring, the word &#8216;desert&#8217; is from Latin which didn&#8217;t come via Egyptian&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, I hope you continue!

10 years ago, a friend of mine was in London and bought for me the Gardiner&#039;s grammar.
I tried to learn hieroglyphics, but at the fourth lesson I was defeath: too hard for me, because I don&#039;t know Latin, Greek, Aramaic, Coptic and......English!

I&#039;m italian and I sadly forgot also Italian grammar; in italian ebony is &quot;ebano&quot; and ivory is &quot;avorio&quot;: I don&#039;t know if the root il Greek or Latin; I studied technical matters and I have a degree in chemistry, so I have admiration for people able to read ancient texts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, I hope you continue!</p>
<p>10 years ago, a friend of mine was in London and bought for me the Gardiner&#8217;s grammar.<br />
I tried to learn hieroglyphics, but at the fourth lesson I was defeath: too hard for me, because I don&#8217;t know Latin, Greek, Aramaic, Coptic and&#8230;&#8230;English!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m italian and I sadly forgot also Italian grammar; in italian ebony is &#8220;ebano&#8221; and ivory is &#8220;avorio&#8221;: I don&#8217;t know if the root il Greek or Latin; I studied technical matters and I have a degree in chemistry, so I have admiration for people able to read ancient texts.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great. For a while now I&#039;ve been flicking through a book on middle Egyptian every time I go to Waterstones, and a few more installments of this might push me over the edge so I buy it. I might even read it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great. For a while now I&#8217;ve been flicking through a book on middle Egyptian every time I go to Waterstones, and a few more installments of this might push me over the edge so I buy it. I might even read it&#8230;</p>
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